Comments on: Some observations after a week on Mac OS X Leopard http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/ A Technology and Business Weblog provided to You by a Global Group of Friends. Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:44:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: The “how to furnish your startup” conundrum, revisited « Tech IT Easy http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3384 The “how to furnish your startup” conundrum, revisited « Tech IT Easy Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:27:26 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3384 [...] about dual screen setups? Having worked with Leopard spaces, ever since I first reviewed it, I’m quite used to have different screens for different activities. However, the way it [...] [...] about dual screen setups? Having worked with Leopard spaces, ever since I first reviewed it, I’m quite used to have different screens for different activities. However, the way it [...]

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By: Pychology of a Mac-man « Tech IT Easy http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3381 Pychology of a Mac-man « Tech IT Easy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:37:01 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3381 [...] when Leopard came out, unlike the new Vista, it ran just fine on my old Mac and I knew I could keep it for a while [...] [...] when Leopard came out, unlike the new Vista, it ran just fine on my old Mac and I knew I could keep it for a while [...]

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By: Zemran http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3388 Zemran Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:21:44 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3388 I am not happy with Time Machine. I had to restore from back up and it was a complete mess. My MBP is set up very different from the standard set up. I have installed a lot of additions webdev stuff that is Unix rather than Apple and Time Machine made a complete mess of all of it. Time Machine restored to the disk install state and I had to do all the updates and changes after the restore. This is not good enough and I would rather have a real backup and restore system. Apature did not work after restore either and I had to reinstall Apature as well. The whole thing was bad. I am not happy with Time Machine. I had to restore from back up and it was a complete mess. My MBP is set up very different from the standard set up. I have installed a lot of additions webdev stuff that is Unix rather than Apple and Time Machine made a complete mess of all of it. Time Machine restored to the disk install state and I had to do all the updates and changes after the restore. This is not good enough and I would rather have a real backup and restore system. Apature did not work after restore either and I had to reinstall Apature as well. The whole thing was bad.

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By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3396 Vincent van Wylick Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:58:17 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3396 I have the same view on the dock on the bottom as on thesides. I think I used a macosxhints-method, pretty much 5 mins after I installed Leopard. About 3rd party integration in Time Machine. That would be awesome. I don't expect either Adobe or Microsoft to jump on that boat anytime soon, however. All the other cocoa-apps now competing with their softwares, will be head over heels, if Apple makes it easy. I hear a big issue for developers is also the lack of Java 6 in Leopard. I have the same view on the dock on the bottom as on thesides. I think I used a macosxhints-method, pretty much 5 mins after I installed Leopard.

About 3rd party integration in Time Machine. That would be awesome. I don’t expect either Adobe or Microsoft to jump on that boat anytime soon, however. All the other cocoa-apps now competing with their softwares, will be head over heels, if Apple makes it easy.

I hear a big issue for developers is also the lack of Java 6 in Leopard.

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By: Kari Silvennoinen http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3395 Kari Silvennoinen Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:33:02 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3395 Upgrade on my PB G4 1,5GHz went smoothly. Absolutely no problems. Quick look is where it's at. I mean, it's insane that I can browse videos, word documents, powerpoint docuemtsn, pdf documents, text files, pictures, music... in seconds just by clicking space bar. And It Works. The other niceness is the universal icon preview, it's cool that the icon is the preview in some cases. With ever-increasing resolutions, this approach makes sense. I've Time Machine on, but haven't really used it. I think both Quick Look and Time Machine will become absolutely terrific as soon as Apple's and 3rd party software start to leverage them. I imagine the power of Time Machine is more apparent when it's intergated with Word or Photoshop or similar. Due to my background choice (Oscar the Fisherman by David Lanham), I don't notice transparent menu bar that much and thanks to Quicksilver, I use Dock rarely these days. I actually don't have any problems with the new dock. Sure, I'd love to have the same view on the bottom as if set to left/right, but ... I think the new dock is ok. The candy-coloured close-min-max-buttons are far more irritating than the new dock. My main gripe about Leopard? OK, so they added a recent ruby build (yay!) and added readline-support (double-yay!) for irb (interactive ruby shell), but ffs I can't use scandinavian letters in irb! There are lots of little things that have been fixed, which had caused daily irritation in Tiger. They were so minor details that I've already forgotten what they were. The problem with ZFS, I think, is that neither Apple or Sun has managed to make it work as a boot partition yet. I might be wrong, but even in Solaris you have to use something else as your main parition. Upgrade on my PB G4 1,5GHz went smoothly. Absolutely no problems.

Quick look is where it’s at. I mean, it’s insane that I can browse videos, word documents, powerpoint docuemtsn, pdf documents, text files, pictures, music… in seconds just by clicking space bar. And It Works. The other niceness is the universal icon preview, it’s cool that the icon is the preview in some cases. With ever-increasing resolutions, this approach makes sense.

I’ve Time Machine on, but haven’t really used it. I think both Quick Look and Time Machine will become absolutely terrific as soon as Apple’s and 3rd party software start to leverage them. I imagine the power of Time Machine is more apparent when it’s intergated with Word or Photoshop or similar.

Due to my background choice (Oscar the Fisherman by David Lanham), I don’t notice transparent menu bar that much and thanks to Quicksilver, I use Dock rarely these days. I actually don’t have any problems with the new dock. Sure, I’d love to have the same view on the bottom as if set to left/right, but … I think the new dock is ok. The candy-coloured close-min-max-buttons are far more irritating than the new dock.

My main gripe about Leopard? OK, so they added a recent ruby build (yay!) and added readline-support (double-yay!) for irb (interactive ruby shell), but ffs I can’t use scandinavian letters in irb!

There are lots of little things that have been fixed, which had caused daily irritation in Tiger. They were so minor details that I’ve already forgotten what they were.

The problem with ZFS, I think, is that neither Apple or Sun has managed to make it work as a boot partition yet. I might be wrong, but even in Solaris you have to use something else as your main parition.

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By: marc duchesne http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3394 marc duchesne Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:26:28 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3394 @Jeremy : as of today, I'm the proud owner and daily user of a 3-yrs old PowerBook which survived a 400°C fire, the happy owner of a 1st generation iPod which plays audio in my car quite well, and the soon-to-be owner of some brand new Apple laptop (don't know which one so far) and refurbished Intel Mini (for the kids). On top, two other iPods at home : a 1st gen iPod Mini and a 2d gen Shuffle (the little tiny one). Still, there are a few things I don't like with Apple, such as a couple of uggly behaviour of OS X. See, I've lost one hour this morning with my office PC, which started the day not recognizing the WiFi base station here, then got blown away by... MS MediaPlayer11 updates, which forced a restart w/o any warning. Such of experience rarely occur with a Mac, at least since MacOS 10.1 ;-) I know you're MS, but : you should always consider the User Experience and the Whole Product Solution as your two key basic elements when designing a new product or service... That's where Apple is pretty strong, and MS pretty weak. @Jeremy : as of today, I’m the proud owner and daily user of a 3-yrs old PowerBook which survived a 400°C fire, the happy owner of a 1st generation iPod which plays audio in my car quite well, and the soon-to-be owner of some brand new Apple laptop (don’t know which one so far) and refurbished Intel Mini (for the kids). On top, two other iPods at home : a 1st gen iPod Mini and a 2d gen Shuffle (the little tiny one).

Still, there are a few things I don’t like with Apple, such as a couple of uggly behaviour of OS X.

See, I’ve lost one hour this morning with my office PC, which started the day not recognizing the WiFi base station here, then got blown away by… MS MediaPlayer11 updates, which forced a restart w/o any warning. Such of experience rarely occur with a Mac, at least since MacOS 10.1 ;-)

I know you’re MS, but : you should always consider the User Experience and the Whole Product Solution as your two key basic elements when designing a new product or service… That’s where Apple is pretty strong, and MS pretty weak.

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By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3389 Vincent van Wylick Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:50:44 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3389 I don't like coverflow for practical reasons. I have a 12" screen and coverflow doubles the size that the finder takes in it. On a big 15+" screen, it may be usable I agree. But generally speaking, when I dig in the finder I prefer having a choice of what I preview, and Quick Look gives me that option. You can also have a similar effect with Quick Look by previewing a file with space and navigating with the arrow keys to other files. Works great for pictures, videos, and similar. About the multi-touch… well, we'll cross that bridge when it comes. @jeremy: that's a dangerous question. For some people, it's like asking whether there's anything they don't like about their wife ;) Of course I make no assumptions about Marc in this regard. I don’t like coverflow for practical reasons. I have a 12″ screen and coverflow doubles the size that the finder takes in it. On a big 15+” screen, it may be usable I agree. But generally speaking, when I dig in the finder I prefer having a choice of what I preview, and Quick Look gives me that option. You can also have a similar effect with Quick Look by previewing a file with space and navigating with the arrow keys to other files. Works great for pictures, videos, and similar.

About the multi-touch… well, we’ll cross that bridge when it comes.

@jeremy: that’s a dangerous question. For some people, it’s like asking whether there’s anything they don’t like about their wife ;) Of course I make no assumptions about Marc in this regard.

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By: Jeremy Fain http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3393 Jeremy Fain Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:28:35 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3393 Marc, just a quick question if I may: is there something you don't like in one of all Apple products or are Apple products all perfect? Marc, just a quick question if I may: is there something you don’t like in one of all Apple products or are Apple products all perfect?

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By: marc duchesne http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3392 marc duchesne Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:56:46 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3392 Leopard on my PB G4 1.25Ghz : it rocks. TimeMachine : the one app which is MANDATORY for The Rest Of Us. It's moving the daily use of a computer to the next level : you don't have to worry about copying/backing up your files anymore, the computer does it for you. CoverFlow : totally disagree with you Vincent. It's the feature that makes the Finder useful again, together with QuickLook. The thing is, CoverFlow will bring the most of its power to the forthcoming MacTouch. Plus, don't forget the new iMac *looks* like the iPhone : it was designed to make people used to it, so Apple can unleash the MultiTouch capabilities to its iMac line as soon as the idea goes mainstream. Leopard on my PB G4 1.25Ghz : it rocks.

TimeMachine : the one app which is MANDATORY for The Rest Of Us. It’s moving the daily use of a computer to the next level : you don’t have to worry about copying/backing up your files anymore, the computer does it for you.

CoverFlow : totally disagree with you Vincent. It’s the feature that makes the Finder useful again, together with QuickLook. The thing is, CoverFlow will bring the most of its power to the forthcoming MacTouch. Plus, don’t forget the new iMac *looks* like the iPhone : it was designed to make people used to it, so Apple can unleash the MultiTouch capabilities to its iMac line as soon as the idea goes mainstream.

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By: Steve Danino http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3391 Steve Danino Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:54:09 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3391 Time Machine "over the Air" is a really nice feature. Maybe someday we'll find cheap, decent Airport stations with fast&large hard drives inside ? This would be awesome and Time Machine would be really useful in that case. Time Machine “over the Air” is a really nice feature. Maybe someday we’ll find cheap, decent Airport stations with fast&large hard drives inside ?

This would be awesome and Time Machine would be really useful in that case.

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By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3390 Vincent van Wylick Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:55:37 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3390 Resolution independence, from what I understand, is possible in Leopard, but not yet turned on. The problem is that the new applications built for Leopard need to support it, and that it's meant for displays with very high resolutions, and which 99% of people obviously don't have yet. Nevertheless, I expect it to come out not too long from now (knock on wood). Time Machine over "the air" is also possible, but after some hacking. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple decided to just enable it out of the box at some point. The status of ZFS is not quite clear. I remember reading that there are stability-issues with it. The guy from Ars Technica, who probably wrote the best, and most technical review of Leopard, expected significant filesystem-upgrades to come in 10.6 only. Resolution independence, from what I understand, is possible in Leopard, but not yet turned on. The problem is that the new applications built for Leopard need to support it, and that it’s meant for displays with very high resolutions, and which 99% of people obviously don’t have yet. Nevertheless, I expect it to come out not too long from now (knock on wood).

Time Machine over “the air” is also possible, but after some hacking. It wouldn’t surprise me if Apple decided to just enable it out of the box at some point.

The status of ZFS is not quite clear. I remember reading that there are stability-issues with it. The guy from Ars Technica, who probably wrote the best, and most technical review of Leopard, expected significant filesystem-upgrades to come in 10.6 only.

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By: Steve http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3386 Steve Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:45:38 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3386 Yep, the choice of almost similar icons for the folders is an absolute disaster. Despite those minor errors, Leopard seems pretty strong. I am a bit dismayed though about the withdrawal of full ZFS support, resolution independance, and Time Machine's backups through Airport. The latter two are killer feaures, which could have made me buy a Mac finally ! Yep, the choice of almost similar icons for the folders is an absolute disaster.

Despite those minor errors, Leopard seems pretty strong. I am a bit dismayed though about the withdrawal of full ZFS support, resolution independance, and Time Machine’s backups through Airport.

The latter two are killer feaures, which could have made me buy a Mac finally !

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By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3387 Vincent van Wylick Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:46:56 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3387 The transparent menu-bar looks ok. If you use a dark background it looks identical to the Tiger-one. But since it doesn't amplify colours, it mutes them, they can be be tuned out pretty quickly. The spotlight-icon on the right and the apple-icon on the left are both black now btw. So, in my opinion, it's become even less distracting then before. And the dock, well there's some hacks on either macosxhints or lifehacker for converting it into a 2-d normal-looking thing. Of course, auto-hiding the bar always helps ;) Ah yeah, I forgot that the folder-icons all look the same, which sucks. I hope someone releases some kind of easy (!) fix for that too. The transparent menu-bar looks ok. If you use a dark background it looks identical to the Tiger-one. But since it doesn’t amplify colours, it mutes them, they can be be tuned out pretty quickly. The spotlight-icon on the right and the apple-icon on the left are both black now btw. So, in my opinion, it’s become even less distracting then before.

And the dock, well there’s some hacks on either macosxhints or lifehacker for converting it into a 2-d normal-looking thing. Of course, auto-hiding the bar always helps ;)

Ah yeah, I forgot that the folder-icons all look the same, which sucks. I hope someone releases some kind of easy (!) fix for that too.

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By: Xu http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3385 Xu Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:52:08 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3385 Thanks for this post Vincent, I've learnt a few things ! I always try to upgrade more than a month after the release. This way I shouldn't be stucked waiting for 3rd party software upgrades... I'm not excited by the new UI : icons, transparent dock & menu bar, wtf Mr. Jobs ? But reading this post I can't wait for spaces, files previews and a fast spotlight (at least)... Like with any OS X update, it's not so impressive, but the small tweeks should improve the long-term usuability :) Thanks for this post Vincent, I’ve learnt a few things !

I always try to upgrade more than a month after the release. This way I shouldn’t be stucked waiting for 3rd party software upgrades…

I’m not excited by the new UI : icons, transparent dock & menu bar, wtf Mr. Jobs ?

But reading this post I can’t wait for spaces, files previews and a fast spotlight (at least)…

Like with any OS X update, it’s not so impressive, but the small tweeks should improve the long-term usuability :)

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By: Vincent van Wylick http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3383 Vincent van Wylick Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:34:12 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3383 I would have really preferred to just to an upgrade to be honest. It's just because of my weird partition-tricks in terminal that I fucked up Leopard, I think. That said, some people were complaining about upgrades too and it is an option, if somewhat invisible. About file-sharing, I can happily report no more beach-balls. It also auto-detects and mounts(!) windows-computers on a LAN. :) I would have really preferred to just to an upgrade to be honest. It’s just because of my weird partition-tricks in terminal that I fucked up Leopard, I think. That said, some people were complaining about upgrades too and it is an option, if somewhat invisible.

About file-sharing, I can happily report no more beach-balls. It also auto-detects and mounts(!) windows-computers on a LAN. :)

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By: Steve Danino http://www.techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3382 Steve Danino Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:04:14 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/11/07/some-observations-after-a-week-on-mac-os-x-leopard/#comment-3382 Apple should really insist on Clean Installs. Since Jaguar at least, they have avoided thousands of Mac Users from getting into real trouble. Just a quick comment on File Sharing : apparently there are still some little issues, although the Finder is not freezing anymore when connecting to a server. Apple should really insist on Clean Installs.

Since Jaguar at least, they have avoided thousands of Mac Users from getting into real trouble.

Just a quick comment on File Sharing : apparently there are still some little issues, although the Finder is not freezing anymore when connecting to a server.

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