Comments on: Scrum and XP from the trenches http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/ web business models, information systems, high tech, software economics, SaaS, Software + Service, innovation, new product development, digital strategy, software engineering, remote / mobile / wireless technologies, VoIP, IPTV, blogs, telecommunication business models, computer networks architecture, project management, user-generated content philosophy, entrepreneurial finance, outsourcing, operations - logistics - e-procurement - supply chain management, customer relationship management, telecom billing, clusters of innovation, e-Business, e-Commerce, start-up launch, fast-growing ventures management, globalization + some useless stuff (usually getting the most visits & comments) Sun, 22 Jun 2008 04:52:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Mark Worden http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-62576 Mark Worden Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:49:41 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-62576 Guys, we're using Wrike project management tool for Scrum now. It works excellent! Though it was hard to believe at first. Take a look at this post http://www.wrike.com/blog/8/12/2007/Scrum_in_Wrike__making_software_development_more_agile Guys, we’re using Wrike project management tool for Scrum now. It works excellent! Though it was hard to believe at first. Take a look at this post http://www.wrike.com/blog/8/12/2007/Scrum_in_Wrike__making_software_development_more_agile

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By: Scrum, Agile, XP and the real life « Heavy Mental http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37360 Scrum, Agile, XP and the real life « Heavy Mental Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:44:14 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37360 [...] have just posted my first contribution : this is about the Henrik Kniberg e-book : Scrum and XP from the Trenches. I was kinda [...] [...] have just posted my first contribution : this is about the Henrik Kniberg e-book : Scrum and XP from the Trenches. I was kinda [...]

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By: Vincent van Wylick http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37353 Vincent van Wylick Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:42:06 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37353 Which makes this an excellent topic to debate. Go nuts, guys! :) Which makes this an excellent topic to debate. Go nuts, guys! :)

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By: ceciiil http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37344 ceciiil Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:14:54 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37344 I think that the main things with agile (TDD, continuous integration, short iteration etc ...) really help in having a very tight control on risks. From my experience : this is just common sense and it really helped a lot in delivering quality products on time, rather quickly. In my mainframe years I was using the waterfall approach and I am not a big fan of this. Besides, it just does not cope easily with requirements changes. To be honest Jeremy, I cant really see type of projects where these basic principles are not appropriate. I think that the main things with agile (TDD, continuous integration, short iteration etc … ;) really help in having a very tight control on risks.

From my experience : this is just common sense and it really helped a lot in delivering quality products on time, rather quickly.

In my mainframe years I was using the waterfall approach and I am not a big fan of this. Besides, it just does not cope easily with requirements changes.

To be honest Jeremy, I cant really see type of projects where these basic principles are not appropriate.

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By: Jeremy Fain http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37318 Jeremy Fain Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:02:02 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37318 I like that daily status meeting thing. Some people don't appreciate being monitored so thoroughly though. I experienced it myself, when a few years ago I kept asking everyday to someone I was working with (in a non hierarchical environment since we were talking of non-for-profit volunteer work) what she was doing. After a few day of work together, she answered shouting: "will you stop thinking I'm not able to achieve anything?" Then I switched to a more passive more, giving her mini-projects and checking every 3 days rather than everyday. We eventually became friends... When working in a startup in Israel, we used to hold daily status meetings. Very often, one of the 3 developers wouldn't show up: "too busy", "focused", "concentrated on an issue", etc. So we found the solution: hold very quick status meetings 1) when walking to the restaurant for lunch; 2) when we moved to a building that had a restaurant on floor 1 (US floors), we held brief, seamless meetings while waiting for the food. VERY USEFUL. Although I believe agile methodologies provide some fresh air to rusty V cycles, it isn't a "one method fits all projects" format. XP, or eXtreme Programming, in my opinion only applies to very specific projects. As far as I see it, it's very hard to match the conditions for developing in XP organizations. I should write a post some day on the conditions that should make the project team go for XP. What do you think? I like that daily status meeting thing. Some people don’t appreciate being monitored so thoroughly though. I experienced it myself, when a few years ago I kept asking everyday to someone I was working with (in a non hierarchical environment since we were talking of non-for-profit volunteer work) what she was doing. After a few day of work together, she answered shouting: “will you stop thinking I’m not able to achieve anything?” Then I switched to a more passive more, giving her mini-projects and checking every 3 days rather than everyday. We eventually became friends…

When working in a startup in Israel, we used to hold daily status meetings. Very often, one of the 3 developers wouldn’t show up: “too busy”, “focused”, “concentrated on an issue”, etc. So we found the solution: hold very quick status meetings 1) when walking to the restaurant for lunch; 2) when we moved to a building that had a restaurant on floor 1 (US floors), we held brief, seamless meetings while waiting for the food. VERY USEFUL.

Although I believe agile methodologies provide some fresh air to rusty V cycles, it isn’t a “one method fits all projects” format. XP, or eXtreme Programming, in my opinion only applies to very specific projects. As far as I see it, it’s very hard to match the conditions for developing in XP organizations. I should write a post some day on the conditions that should make the project team go for XP. What do you think?

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By: ceciiil http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37303 ceciiil Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:57:17 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37303 This "adapt to constantly evolving requirements" is really one of the main principle of Agile methodologies . Scrum being itself an Agile approach fully supports that. Actually the book address that very issue a couple of times. Another issue is to make sure dev team fully understands the scope of a story and the expected outputs. Henrik gives a couple of examples where during sprint planning just asking a few questions save dev team to develop needless features. This “adapt to constantly evolving requirements” is really one of the main principle of Agile methodologies .

Scrum being itself an Agile approach fully supports that. Actually the book address that very issue a couple of times.

Another issue is to make sure dev team fully understands the scope of a story and the expected outputs. Henrik gives a couple of examples where during sprint planning just asking a few questions save dev team to develop needless features.

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By: Kari http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37289 Kari Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:12:05 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37289 Great review, I've been interested in Scrum for a while now as I really would like to believe in its philosophy. In my opinion its admission that "things change" is something that many methods try to ignore. Great review, I’ve been interested in Scrum for a while now as I really would like to believe in its philosophy. In my opinion its admission that “things change” is something that many methods try to ignore.

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By: Fred Brunel » Scrum and XP from the Trenches http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37276 Fred Brunel » Scrum and XP from the Trenches Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:38:43 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37276 [...] Read a more in depth review of this book on Tech IT [...] [...] Read a more in depth review of this book on Tech IT [...]

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By: Fred Brunel http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37274 Fred Brunel Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:36:47 +0000 http://techiteasy.org/2007/08/26/scrum-and-xp-from-the-trenches/#comment-37274 Excellent review, Cecil. Excellent review, Cecil.

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